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The Fairmont Palliser

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133 9th Avenue SW
Calgary, AB  T2P 2M3

(403) 262-1234

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October 30, 2018

Specialties

Centrally located in downtown Calgary, The Fairmont Palliser is conveniently situated near the city's business and financial district and the city's most exciting shopping, arts, culture and entertainment venues. The hotel offers distinctive accommodation in elegant surroundings.

History

Established in 1914

A History of Hospitality
Since 1914, The Fairmont Palliser has been the... more

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November 05, 2013

Centrally located, The Fairmont Palliser luxury Calgary hotel is a historical landmark featuring distinctive accommodations, elegant event space, a soothing day spa and sophisticated dining

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July 21, 2013

Specialties

Set in the heart of the city, The Fairmont Palliser is a historical landmark offering distinctive accommodation in elegant surroundings.

History

Established in 1914

A History of Hospitality
Since 1914, The Fairmont Palliser has been the city's premier address, the cornerstone of Calgary's hospitality industry and a landmark building that is rich in history and architecture. For... more

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4 star rating
Crispe Calgary September 19, 2010
not just a name

Another review states that you're only paying for the name here and that you get nothing in return. I disagree, this hotel is very nice and has great accommodations. The only reason I dock stars is because a lot of the extra amenities aren't included in your room price and cost extra.

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4 star rating
February 21, 2013

Opened in 1914 as one of the Canadian Pacific Railroad hotels, the Palliser is Calgary's landmark historic hotel, and remains its most visible expression of old-world luxury. The vast marble-floored lobby, surrounded by columns and lit by gleaming chandeliers, is the very picture of Edwardian sumptuousness. You'll feel like an Alberta Cattle King in the Rimrock Dining Room, with vaulted... more

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4 star rating
September 03, 2018

This hotel is smack-dab in downtown Cow town, It is adjacent to the Calgary tower. Its a landmark of the city. I have stayed here several times over the years on my own or with friends, and to be honest never felt it was worth the hype, aside from its place in the annals of Calgary history (The Queen stayed her as did Winston Churchill) and architecture (amazing Edwardian style building,... more

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4 star rating
August 16, 2018

Tiny bathroom and noisy train outside window - used to higher standards at Fairmonts!

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4 star rating
July 21, 2018

This hotel has a great location in downtown Calgary. It is a beautiful structure, with a full compliment of services offered. The reason I have assigned such a low rating has to do with the attitude of the staff, which has not been wonderful. Service in the Oak Room the first day we arrived was passable, but non existent last night...waited for a really long time for the bartender to... more

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4 star rating
July 13, 2018

Great stay here at the Fairmont. Great location and the staff are incredible. I definitely recommend coming here.

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4 star rating
July 09, 2018

Keeping up with The Fairmont standard, The Palliser in Calgary is a good extension of the brand.

The rooms are not huge but good sized and certainly not small. The bar is big enough to find a quiet corner to work or sit at a more boisterous bar.

Breakfast comes in two forms, buffet or a la carte. My colleagues have tried the buffet with good reviews while I prefer the menu options. I've not... more

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4 star rating
July 05, 2018

The fairmont has gone downhill. I was flying for 12 hours and when I checked in Amy was completely rude and unfriendly. The room is dated and the heating/air conditioning is not consistent. I do not recommend. Many other hotels that are newer and better!

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4 star rating
May 21, 2018

Beautiful lobby decor, exceptional service at the lobby, but teeny tiny rooms! My boyfriend and I stayed for one night in Calgary so we decided to spurge a little bit and stay at the Fairmont Palliser. Though the building and amenities were nice, we couldn't get over how small the rooms were! There was barely any room from the bed to the tv stand and the bathroom felt like a closet. I guess you... more

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4 star rating
May 15, 2018

Definitely not what I expected from a Fairmont. The service and hospitality is all there but the rooms feel like a cheap Motel. The room was so small if you take two steps your literally on the other side of the room. All I'm saying is if you're spending top dollar on a hotel your room should be top dollar as well and not just the amenities. I get the whole historical feel but other Fairmont's... more

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4 star rating
May 02, 2018

Erronus Billing Practices

I am a huge fan of Fairmont Properties

And have stayed in their gold floors in Winnipeg Whistler & Vancouver Airport

As well as have stayed at the Fairmont San Francisco & The Palliser in Calgary Prior to this stay

The service was good the room was good but sorry

Billing is a nightmare

I booked & prepaid my room online directly through Fairmont and prepaid the... more

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4 star rating
March 09, 2018

Check in was seamless, and it was a beautiful hotel. I had 1200 dollars taken from my room while I was out sightseeing. I involved the manager in duty "Becky Gale" She was very kind and Apologetic. She told me the hotel would get to the bottom of what happened. She offered me a comped meal in the Oak room. Which was amazing. It was NOT 1200 dollars amazing. But it was a nice gesture. Ms Gale... more

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4 star rating
February 06, 2018

Rating the bar only! Very pleasant and comfortable. Well make drinks and presentation of the drinks was nicely done. Service was perfect. Never had to wait on drinks and when we had to leave, closing out was prompt and efficient. Bar snacks were generously offered.

I would definitely return and expect to enjoy this place as well on my next trip

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4 star rating
January 28, 2018

High Tea - This review is solely regarding our previous high tea experience.

UPDATE: Eraj and his team at the Fairmont Palliser has proven to redeem themselves from our last high tea experience. He was generous to invite all of us back for high tea to make up from our previous experience. It was night and day compared to last time. Everything was top notch! The food and service was astounding!... more

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4 star rating
January 01, 2018

Excellent place. I had a fantastic evening here with my wife and my only regret was we didn't stay another night. The walk from the cheap parking lot is a little long, but $12 for our stay was very reasonable. We chose to have the breakfast buffet and I would highly recommend this as well. Great service as even the housekeeper new my name! Would defiantly come back again for a romantic getaway... more

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4 star rating
November 19, 2017

I loved my stay here! It was so nice to have a hotel connected to an event so I didn't have to walk outside everyday in winter. The room was cozy and clean, the bed gigantic and the linens really nice. I ordered room service e v e r y day. And it was amazing. What I didn't like was the $14.99 if you wanted wifi, and I didn't think that diet cokes at $4 were very fair. I feel like you pay a lot... more

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4 star rating
September 06, 2017

I love the Fairmont hotels and make concessions because they generally tend to be historical buildings. The Palliser is one of those types: historical and beautiful. I could sit in the lounge area and people watch for days if allowed. The quality of the staff was great as usual and the room comfortable. The location is also good as it's in the middle downtown and close to the Sky Tower and... more

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4 star rating
July 01, 2017

I couldn't be happier.
Everyone has been extremely helpful and accommodating.
Special thanks to the wonderful Tatiana who has been working with me over the past couple days via email. It was so nice to finally meet her. She got me squared away and had all sorts of informational brochures for things we discussed.
And what a gorgeous hotel in the heart of one of my favorite cities.
Do yourself a... more

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4 star rating
May 20, 2017

Excellent service. Beautiful rooms. The hotel itself is stunning... spa was amazing, best massage. I really can't say anything negative about this hotel. We had a great stay

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4 star rating
May 19, 2017

Don't come on a long weekend the place is way understaffed! And horhay the waiter needs to focus on working and not getting too friendly with the customers. Food was good, but very disappointed with the service.

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4 star rating
May 03, 2017

Calgary flagship historical grand dame. Part of the Fairmont rail hotel line. Adjacent to historical rail lines to Vancouver and east. Nice business hotel. Plush appointments and wide halls. Not opulent but full of history and serious for business but fun enough to let your hair down and have some fun.

In my second stay at this property I used a fpc (Fairmont Presidents Club) certificate to... more

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4 star rating
April 28, 2017

Smallest hotel room I have ever stayed in

Room service food is awful. The chicken club was cold except for the chicken. Cold bread and cold cheese. But warm bland chicken. I should have known when my order showed up 10 minutes after ordering it. What room service meal is that quick? I was unhappy so I then ordered quinoa burger. I know I shouldn't have. That's an order you should only make at... more

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4 star rating
March 18, 2017

Beautiful hotel with a great location, but not as extravagant as I expected it to be. This is an old hotel, and because of that I think the basic rooms lacked any extra grandeur or indulgence that you'd expect from staying at a Fairmont. Bed was very comfortable though, and room was spacious.

Internet is not free unless you are a member.

Customer service was nowhere near 5-star at this hotel.... more

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4 star rating
March 04, 2017

Top notch service at this full-service hotel... entire staff I interacted with was courteous, friendly and helpful. Great stay!

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4 star rating
January 08, 2017

My spouse and I booked an 'extra special' SPA DAY at the Palliser over the Christmas break in Dec. 2016. We were shocked by the lack of quality with our visit. The spa treatments we received were mediocre for the price ($300 total). The staff were not friendly at all. One lady with strong accent was actually quite abrupt and rude. The hot tub and steam which are open for spa visitors also, was... more

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4 star rating
December 31, 2016

Meh, A let down for a Fairmont
Accommodations 3/5, service & hospitality 1/5

Booked a suite for new years, directly through Fairmont's website. Upon arrival, valet service was quite bad, long wait in the cold - valet attendant had a strange demeanour, nobody was at the doors greeting guests, or even in the lobby - very cold reception.

In my check-in email, I was informed to go to the... more

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4 star rating
September 14, 2016

What a wonderful treat.
My daughter and I stayed here one night after Spruce Meadows Masters. The staff couldn't be any more friendly and service was top notch.
We were fortunate enough to have a gold status room and got to partake in happy hour and breakfast on the penthouse floor. Beautiful city views, comfortable big chairs, lovely attendants and the food was top notch!
We will treat... more

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4 star rating
August 27, 2016

Located right next to Calgary tower. Beautiful hotel that is clean, staff is exceptionally friendly, and rooms are very comfortable. Bathrooms are on the small size. They have a bar and a restaurant located inside the hotel.

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4 star rating
August 10, 2016

What else would you expect from the Fairmont?

Over the years, I've had the pleasure of staying at not one, not two, but three historic hotels under the same Fairmont umbrella: San Francisco, Edmonton, and now Calgary.

The YYC version is quite similar to the others, maintaining the charm from decades past while keeping with the technological times. Yes, the elevators are a little slow and the... more

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4 star rating
August 06, 2016

We stayed on the 10th floor, room 1047 is awesome FYI, with a view of the city. My fiancé went to the Palliser, nights before, surreptitiously (with the great help of staff), to check out rooms since they're all unique . The layout of the room was gorgeous. There was a (nonworking) beautiful fireplace, large TV, comfortable king size bed, desk, sofa area and awesome bathroom. City views were... more

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4 star rating
August 04, 2016

We thoroughly enjoyed our stay at the Palliser. My father had been staying at the Palliser and they treated him like family so we would not have stayed anywhere else. Thank you so much to the Palliser! And what an epic trip we came to Calgary to see #TheHip and they were even staying at the historic Palliser as well. If we get to come to Calgary again we will for sure stay at the Palliser!

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4 star rating
July 28, 2016

I was here for a huge business event. We pretty much booked the entire hotel and most of the others in the area. This one, was by far the best. A truly beautiful setting inside. I often see a lot of people having business meetings or just casually chilling and as it gets later in day having a drink. It's a really great interior that is moody and ambient.

I would say this is a great date night... more

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4 star rating
June 27, 2016

I can't comment on the majority of the hotel. I mean, one day I'll opt to stay at an expensive hotel in my own city just for the heck of it, but until that day... Wow! What a great event space!

They've got such a gorgeous conference room and event space located off the main lobby, which is also quite incredible. It's the closest place I know of in Calgary where you feel as if you're in a... more

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4 star rating
May 22, 2016

Horrible parking, even though you've paid good money to stay at this hotel they still make you pay for parking. Zero clear signs to tell you the correct place to park so you might end up walking around the block as we did, at night .
Anyone can enter the hotel from the parkade at night, which gave us zero security.
When we first checked in the front desk guy gave us zero information, we had no... more

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4 star rating
March 20, 2016

Came here last week for high tea. It was a pleasant experience, started with the waiter providing a selection of various teas to choose from, followed by fresh berries with cream. He then brought our tea and a three teared tray of fresh scones with proper clotted cream and a selection of preserves, a variety of finger sandwiches and some small deserts. The selection was good, the sandwiches... more

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4 star rating
November 15, 2015

Great stay, great location... Check in was quick and smooth, staff was extremely courteous and helpful. Starbucks onsite was a bonus!

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4 star rating
November 13, 2015

My boyfriend and I decided to stay here for just a weekend away from Edmonton for a night . We booked a room and thought we booked a king size but ended up getting a queen size. I asked the person on the phone if there was a pool and they said yes. We arrived and the lady said that the pool was closed and we could walk next door.. WISH WE WOULD OF KNEW THAT.. We were looking forward to be in... more

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4 star rating
October 08, 2015

We enjoyed a wonderful two night stay in Calgary and felt extremely welcomed by the Fairmont staff. From check in and room upgrade from the lovely Kyla, to Simon our waiter at the Rimrock and Patrick the master omelette maker, Ofelia in the Oak Room and the housekeepers and valets - it was truly 5 star service. The room was spacious and comfortable and we hope to visit again! Thank you!

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4 star rating
September 28, 2015

Avoid this place at all costs. I stayed here for a conference and had the worst experience. The bed was as hard as a rock and the room was filthy and in desperate need of repair. To top it all off, the housekeeping stole my belongings!

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4 star rating
September 28, 2015

Gross, and if you have a car, there is "free parking" the spaces are totally limited though, first come first serve type of thing... forget about parking in the lot after 4pm. The room was INSANELY small  and there was supper nasty mold on the shower!

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4 star rating
September 28, 2015

Why doesn't Yelp allow 0 stars? Called a couple days ago to make two different reservations for my bosses, and just checked the confirmation emails to find that one of the rooms was booked with the wrong room type, the wrong number of nights, and the wrong credit card!

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4 star rating
September 28, 2015

DUMP!  A friend reserved this room for me. I hope I will find a way to forgive him. Upon checkin the first room they gave us smelled of stale cigarettes.  Room 2 did not smell but an old air conditioner hangs from the window and there is another building about 3 feet beyond that.  The halls are noisy and the walls thin.  In fact I could even hear someone plugging something into a socket next door.

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4 star rating
September 28, 2015

Terribly unprofessional and downright rude management!!!

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4 star rating
September 28, 2015

Do not bother to answer the reservation survey questions regarding room choice, they really do not care.

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4 star rating
September 28, 2015

They really need to stop letting inexperienced people working here,

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4 star rating
September 28, 2015

Cute place but if you leave something behind you'll never see it again. My brother left a 2000.$ watch and low and behold no one has seen it.

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4 star rating
September 28, 2015

I really wanted to post a four-star review for this place, but they are really not customer service oriented.

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4 star rating
September 28, 2015

Ugly and outdated hotel. Literally one of the ugliest hotels I've ever been to. A trap I got into for the best of the rest of the group just because who made the booking isn't familiar with the hotels around.

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4 star rating
September 12, 2015

Wonderful old old hotel. Fantastic service, beautiful old world charm. Had front room on street, very quiet, cozy room, comfy bed. In downtown center, easy walk to mall & restaurants.Will definitely be back.

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4 star rating
August 21, 2015

Wonderful hotel centrally located downtown. Stayed in a recently renovated suite that blended classic heritage style charm with modern conveniences. The Gold lounge offers a deluxe breakfast and much more too like beverages, hor d'oeuvres, etc. and it's a nice place to relax too.

Pool area is not ideal for small children as there are no stairs into the water just a ladder on each side.

Staff... more

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4 star rating
July 21, 2015

We stay here most every time we are through Calgary. The rooms are nice and the Beds very comfortable. The staff is friendly. I have never really had any issues here . Location is great being right Downtown and a walk away from the Tower.

The restaurant in the Hotel is Nice but very pricey. This Hotel can be very busy at times. With some long waits to get Checked In or Out.

If you are a... more

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4 star rating
July 19, 2015

Classy and historic hotel in downtown Calgary. Very central, close to shops on 8th ave, restaurants, coffee, pubs and bars. Perfect for walking around and navigating.

I use the valet parking here all the time. Very professional and nice. Love the staff at valet

Was at the Palliser for an event and always hit the Oak Room, before or after - just depends. Great drink choices and a great food... more

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4 star rating
Comfortable stay all you need right in the hotel.
December 15, 2014

The only thing not good for us was no WiFi after paying for our room.

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4 star rating
Downtown Calgary
December 14, 2014

Beautiful hotel, close to all the downtown amenities. Lots of character and charm. Have stayed many times and will stay again.

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4 star rating
Thundering sound of trains & no parking
December 08, 2014

We pulled up with tons of gear to unload. There were cars triple parked at the entrance with nowhere to pull in. Had to park in a municipal lot as the hotel has no parking of its own. Staff was helpful and offered free valet service but it still to 2 hours to get our luggage to the room. The hotel offered a room upgrade to the 2nd floor, back of the hotel. Turns out a main railway line was... more

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4 star rating
Nice hotel
December 07, 2014

Nice, but had some receipts go missing from the room after it was cleaned!!

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4 star rating
Nice new renovations
December 07, 2014

Everything was great other than the train going by 3 times nod waking us up each time.

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4 star rating
Logistical problems at Downtown Calgary Hotel
December 07, 2014

I love the Fairmont Group of hotels but this was my worst experience at one of their hotels. Their location in downtown Calgary is difficult for valet when it gets busy. There were three lines of stopped traffic in front of the hotel waiting for valet and I had to wait 15-20 minutes just to get in the queue. On weekends and holidays when they expect alot of guests, they should hire additional... more

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4 star rating
One night weekend stay
November 30, 2014

Everything as expected, except the customer service which was above and beyond the typical hotel experience.

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4 star rating
Awesome
November 30, 2014

Stayed at the Fairmont for the weekend with my wife. As usual, we loved the Fairmont experience, the clean rooms, the nice smelling towels, the work out room....everything!! I would absolutely recommend this hotel to anyone looking to sray in downtown Calgary, and would reiterate that the experience is unmatched by any other nearby establishments. Thanks again!

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4 star rating
One night only
November 23, 2014

Got a great rate for one night with a surprise room upgrade.

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4 star rating
I love this Hotel
November 16, 2014

We so much enjoyed our stay, however we did find the costs of the food and drinks are a little over the top. $23 plus dollars for an egg white omelet is s little out of my league. However, I will stay there over and over and over again, and possibly use other restaurants in the area when it isn't -25.

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4 star rating
Exceptional Lodging & Staff
October 02, 2014

This was my first visit to Calgary, and therefore the first time at the Fairmont Palliser. I use a wheelchair, and because I had heard about issues with accommodations for wheelchair patrons, I had some trepidation. I can put that myth to rest. Not only is there access (via the elevator located just a short distance from the main entrance)... more

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4 star rating
A luxurious break from the norm
October 02, 2014

We spent an evening at the Fairmont to escape our home renovations. We selected the Fairmont to treat ourselves to a little luxury and pampering.
It was the best decision ever!
We upgraded to a Gold Room and were treated to very comfortable space with everything you would expect of a luxury classic hotel like the Fairmont.
The service was... more

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4 star rating
The Gold Standard
October 02, 2014

This weekend my lovely wife and I stayed at the Palliser Hotel here in Calgary to celebrate our tenth anniversary. We spent our wedding night there exactly 10 years ago on the day, so we arranged another night with a couples massage in the morning. However when we checked in we found out that our plans were about to change!!... more

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4 star rating
Great Traditional Hotel
October 02, 2014

You really feel a part of Canada and Calgary's history staying here! The staff are fantastic, friendly helpful and remember you even after your first day.
Pity they charge you for internet access. come on guys its 2014!

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4 star rating
1st stay, not dissappointed
October 02, 2014

This is my 1st time in Calgary and I do not have much expectation of the place nor the hotel.
You will be advised by the concierge to sign up for The Fairmont membership to enjoy free wifi whereas the front desk chose to tell me that it is payable. I appreciate the guy who told me that.
It is... more

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4 star rating
Lovely hotel
October 02, 2014

We stayed here for one night prior to our Rocky Mountaineer trip. The hotel is old, elegant, and tasteful. We stayed in a queen bed bedroom. It was lovely. It appeared to be newly redecorated and refurbished, with a very lovely and modern bathroom, not a large bathroom, but very adequate. The room was big and extremely comfortable. The big... more

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4 star rating
Location and Staff tough to beat
October 02, 2014

I had the opportunity to stay at the Palliser for three nights this week and was not disappointed. The staff are fantastic and helpful with every request. The room was clean and quiet with a great bed and enough pillows to find the right one for you. I didn't have much of a view but was not at important to... more

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4 star rating
Nice hotel
October 02, 2014

A classic treat.. i very much enjoy brunch here with the family on Sundays. the selection is very nice and the food and service exceptional. there is room for large groups tabled on one and they have a private room if the group is very large..

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4 star rating
Noisy and painfully slow elevators
October 02, 2014

I stayed here for a wedding at a different venue. Yes the hotel has a lot of charm, character and history, but also has old windows = really loud. It was filled with ambulance, fire and police sirens all night, then at 7:00 AM on a Saturday construction starts.

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4 star rating
OK but a little stuffy
October 02, 2014

The hotel is quite nice and very similar to the Fairmonts in Montreal and Toronto. It is older but the rooms are renovated and quite comfortable.
If you are looking for an old classic hotel this would work well for you. If you are looking for something a little younger, more modern with a decent bar I don't think I... more

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4 star rating
Calgary for the night
October 02, 2014

Love the Palliser for my quick business trips to Calgary! The staff know me and my needs and try to make my stay special every time! I love how close it is to most major attractions. I also use it as a stop over between home and the mountains, making the trip that much more pleasant!

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4 star rating
Great time in Calgary
October 02, 2014

Stayed for an evening while the wife was visiting (we live apart while I work). We chose the hotel mainly because she had never seen Calgary, and we had reservations at the Tower, which is connected to the hotel.
Between the amazing decor, comfortable rooms, and the "self-important" feeling you get every time you walk through the lobby, this was... more

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4 star rating
will never disappoint
October 02, 2014

once again, the Palliser's reasonable prices and personal touches have made an unforgettable getaway.
I don't even know why I try other hotels.
Upgraded to an AMAZING room, and as always the gold level was worth every penny. Great cocktail snacks and breakfast with the most beautiful views.
Twice now, we have chosen the Palliser as a romantic celebration weekend,... more

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4 star rating
over 70$ in hidden fees and $8 bottle of water
October 02, 2014

Im blown away by all the hidden fees that cam at this hotel $40 for parking . $20 for wifi. Then vhecknout they added an additional around 10$ for i have no idea what from when i booked online. I will never stay at this hotel ot a fairimont ever again from this exp.i felt i was this hotel tries... more

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4 star rating
An Oasis Within The City
October 02, 2014

I have stayed at the Fairmont Palliser numerous times. When I need to get away to have quiet time and much needed rest and do not want to travel terribly far from home, I then head to Calgary, Alverta.
Immediately upon arrival, the staff promptly greet you and look after you with the utmost of attention for the duration of... more

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4 star rating
Old World 5 Star Hotel
October 02, 2014

One of the finest hotels with the staff going above and beyond to make sure that the stay was outstanding. An older hotel, with smaller rooms, but the plus is very quiet rooms. Central location and an extremely comfortable lounge. We had a reduced rate for the weekend and a holiday.

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4 star rating
Basically good but let down by some staff
October 02, 2014

This is a hotel in the city centre dates back to the early days of Calgary - a large imposing building with small windows and a certain refinement. The lobby is decidedly grand reflecting a former era but the infrastructure is modern and efficient. The staff here are very accommodating, helpful and efficient - valet parking runs smoothly, the concierge... more

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4 star rating
Grand Hotel in Vibrant City
October 02, 2014

Have spent two nights in this grand old hotel. Everything is updated, rooms,baths, lobby and spa. The facilities are all modern, while maintaining the ambience and atmosphere of the majestic site. Everything was wonderful. Room clean, neat, comfortable, updated and with plenty of towels. Staff friendly, upbeat, knowledgable and willing to assist you in any way. If you are going... more

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4 star rating
A Bit Disappointing
October 02, 2014

Our check in took about 1/2 hr even though I had done my on-line check-in prior to arriving. We could not get Valet parking as they didn't have enough staff on to handle the number of people checking in and Sat. evening and again Sun. morning the elevators were not working! Our room was nice but for a 5 star... more

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4 star rating
Fairmount Hotels in Canada
October 02, 2014

I had the recent experience of staying in several of the Fairmont Hotels in Canada beginning with the Fairmont Palliser in Calgary. Although each are individually owned, I found the overall level of service excellent, and the staff responsive to my requests. In Cargary, I would like to acknowledge Kate at the front desk, and Jacqueline and her staff for... more

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4 star rating
Another Fantastic Fairmont Stay
October 02, 2014

We stayed one night choosing Fairmont "Gold" and were extremely pleased. We find Gold to offer more value with the personalized and exemplary service, the complimentary food offered from 5 to 7pm, as well as an impressive complimentary breakfast. They also provide turn down service. We are Fairmont Premier and we have been to quite a few Fairmont properties in... more

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4 star rating
Great hotel
October 02, 2014

Only stayed for one night but it was a great experience. Staff made us feel very welcome which was a great start to our holiday. The room was spacious and well decorated/maintained. Would stay again in the future.

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4 star rating
Disappointing
October 02, 2014

I've staying in many Fairmonts this one has disappointed me the biggest. We are going to Calgary celebrate a family members 50th birthday. We booked online and accidentally booked the wrong weekend. We tried to explain our situation but I guess they don't care about the little people. All I get was that they reserved a room for me so... more

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4 star rating
Grand hotel
October 02, 2014

If you have the opportunity and the extra cash to stay at a terrific hotel, stay at this one. It is right downtown Calgary, close to shopping, entertainment and touristy sights. It is an old beautifully renovated hotel from the hay day of railroad travel, the train at one time actually came right into the hotel. The restaurants, pool and... more

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4 star rating
One night not enough
October 02, 2014

Stayed for one night as a start of our holiday, everything super, very helpful staff, great room and good breakfast. Wish we could have stayed longer. The whole experience was great, quick check in, super room, excellent breakfast. All the staff were pleasant and helpful. Wish we could have stayed longer

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4 star rating
Excellent value in Calgary
October 02, 2014

My 2nd time to this hotel. It's on promotion so I got a unbelievable deal. Probably only $20 more than a new, 3-stars, non-downtown hotel. The lobby interior is great. The room is of good size and furnished. Unfortunately I didn't get upgrade this time, but it's still my first choice in Calgary.

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4 star rating
Lovely stay
October 02, 2014

Received an unexpected upgrade and had a really great room. It was very quiet and comfortable. It's a lovely old hotel, with a great deal of character and charm. Yes, there are trains at night -- but it was a railway hotel to begin with, so it's to be expected. I was not bothered by it at all.
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4 star rating
Off to a bad start, but fortunately the President's Club saved the day
October 02, 2014

After a long flight check-in was not pleasant. Although I am a member of the President's Club, that check-in desk did not have any staff. (Anyone can join for free, so don't go to a Fairmont without joining!) The regular check-in staff put us into an undesirable room. It had been a smoking room, and even though it had been... more

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4 star rating
Palliser Hotel Calgary
October 02, 2014

A beautiful old hotel. Located downtown, so convenient to some shopping and eating out. Parking a definite problem. Our room was very nice but very small. No room for guests, if you wished to have someone over to visit.

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4 star rating
Rocky Mountain Tour
October 02, 2014

The stay was very pleasant, in spite of waking up to snow on September 9! The staff was very efficient and helpful during our overnight stay. The restaurant prices were, in our opinion, rather pricey.

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4 star rating
beautiful hotel, beautiful people
October 02, 2014

Not only is the hotel stunning, the staff is as well. Muhammad checked me in with the most professional, gracious hospitality that I've seen in quite some time. Another front desk employee, Pam, was another shining star of this facility; she had all the answers to my questions and her positive, energetic spirit was refreshing. The room was well appointed,... more

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4 star rating
downtown calgary at it's best
October 02, 2014

a wonderful full service hotel in the heart of downtown Calgary...walking distance to great shopping and great restaurants...try the gold level at the Palliser the experience is second to none...we always stay here when in Calgray

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4 star rating
Great downtown location
October 02, 2014

We stayed there over the weekend and found it was perfectly located to walking around downtown. The front desk staff was very helpful and made our short trip a nice one. The room was very nice and quiet.

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4 star rating
Bathrobe Blues
October 02, 2014

I have stayed at the Palliser many times in the past and have always been impressed with the friendly service and comfortable rooms. Indeed, one of the things I look forward to most is the comfy robes! Unfortunately, that was not to be the case this time around. When we arrived in our room I was very dissapointed to see... more

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4 star rating
Small rooms with no dressers and mediocre service
October 02, 2014

Meh-just ok, expected more for the price. Room was small and had 3 hangers in a small closet and no dresser or side tables so have to live out of my suitcase. Great location, but a bit old and unimpressive.

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4 star rating
Fairmont Impresses Again
October 02, 2014

It has been my experience that booking a Fairmont anywhere in the world will provide you with a wonderful experience. This past weekend is no exception to that rule.
We took a trip to Calgary to visit our oldest grandson. We booked in for the Saturday evening and booked the Fairmont Gold Concierge floor. We loved the option of arriving... more

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4 star rating
A very luxurios hotel
October 02, 2014

A very luxurios hotel in downtown Calgary. I spent an excellent weekend there where this hotel is in a great location with several bars within walking distance. The view from the room was very good because we were around the tenth floor. I would highly recommend this hotel because the service was excellent as was the food.

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4 star rating
Fantistic end to my wedding night
October 02, 2014

My wife and I stayed at the Palliser on August 23, following a fantastic day/evening of our wedding.
Fairmont Gold staff were very helpful in allowing a friend to check us in, with pre-approvial that the friend would have my credit card, etc. The room (706) was spotless,had a brilliant view of 9th avenue towards the Calgary Tower (unobstructed), bed... more

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4 star rating
Beautiful Hotel In A Great Location, But Everything Costs Extra
October 02, 2014

My friends and I are not "luxury travelers," but we opted to stay right downtown on our last night in Calgary after a week in Banff and Jasper National Parks. I think what we paid for the room was fair and it was a beautiful old hotel, but I am always surprised when I have to pay for Wi-Fi in... more

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4 star rating
very clean place with helpful staff
October 02, 2014

booked on-line for great price, was offered $50 up-grade when we arrived, well worth it for the penthouse floor! misunderstood we were supposed to go to penthouse restaurant for the buffet breakfast and went downstairs instead but (was still a great buffet) but when checking out staff took care of the charges and felt so bad that we misunderstood so... more

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4 star rating
Another excellent Fairmont city property
October 02, 2014

This is another of my " A tale of 10 Canadian Fairmont " reviews.
Despite being local, my first stay at Palliser was January 2013, followed by another stay on New Year's eve. Having gone through this hotel numerous times for brunch, dinner, wedding events, conferences, I pretty well have seen all their public places, so it's a good wrap... more

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4 star rating
Death By Chocolate Buffet
October 02, 2014

My boyfriend and I tried the "Death by Chocolate" Buffet that they hold here every last Monday of each month. It was rather underwhelmindg to say the least. At $30 a person, there is a rather small selection. Some of the desserts were quite decadent and delicious, some were just average and some below average. I've had better desserts at... more

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4 star rating
This us the place to stay in Calgary
October 02, 2014

We began and ended a trip to the Canadian Rockies and Montana at the Fairmont Palliser in Calgary. This was a wonderful beginning and end. The amenities and staff are absolutely superb. Every aspect of this hotel gets a top notch rating.

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4 star rating
excelent
October 02, 2014

This hotel is really amazing, very classy and not expensive. actually surprisingly good price. I really recommend it . The breakfast is a little expensive if you chose the complete one but it it surely worth it.

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4 star rating
Watch Out For The Night Trains
October 02, 2014

Recently stayed at this Hotel for the night, with terrible results.
First of al I had been staying at Fairmont Hotels recently throughout the North West with great results, the one in Calgary was a disaster.
My main belief and objective is to have a good nights sleep...not too much to ask?
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4 star rating
Shabby for a Fairmont
October 02, 2014

As with other Fairmont properties, the hotel itself is grand and beautiful. The restaurants are good, the food also good though pricey, but that is to be expected. Location excellent if you want to stay downtown. As for customer service, this is the worst service I've received at a Fairmont. Our first night, my wife and I were woken at... more

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4 star rating
Excellent Reno on rooms
October 02, 2014

The newly decorated rooms on the 9th floor are very pretty but small and noisy. Still great Value and exceptional service. This is one of the great "old" Hotel and you will find the lobby Stunning.Great pool and Recreation area. Even better with Starbucks on the lower level.

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4 star rating
Beautiful
October 02, 2014

Stayed one night in this historic hotel. Beautiful interiors, efficient & friendly reception and concierge staff. Actually, everyone we ran across was helpful.
Room was well appointed, clean, and spacious. On site restaurants were good, spa/pool area nice.
Would definitely stay here again when in Calgary.

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4 star rating
Awful
October 02, 2014

An absolute awful experience. Stayed at the palliser the night before my wedding and the wedding night. First off our entire floor smelt like old rotting fish. After askinf staff 3 different times to confirm something special would be done on our wedding night nothing was done. They reassured me everytime it would happen. Absolutely unreal. Sincerely disappointed.

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4 star rating
Amazing... yet again
October 02, 2014

I've stayed at the hotel a couple of times in the regular rooms; however this time was a special treat for our 21st wedding anniversary.... so we went Gold. FANTASTIC is all that can be said, although expensive it was well worth the investment. That's right an investment; an investment in my relationship with my wife and kids. Our room... more

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4 star rating
Excellent hôtel
July 29, 2014

Nous avons passé 2 nuits sans ce magnifique hôtel et nous ne pouvons que le recommander. Tout était simplement parfait.

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4 star rating
Average...unfortunately there is not much better in Calgary
November 10, 2013

Stayed for a quick business trip in October. The old railway hotels of Canada are beautiful buildings, but the stay does not always equal the appearance. I stayed on the Gold Floor and I really... more

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4 star rating
Great service, great stay
November 10, 2013

I have stayed at this hotel 20 times in the past 12 months. Their location is excellent for someone who does business in Calgary. Their service is constantly outstanding, with great customer care. I... more

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4 star rating
The hotel is beautiful
November 06, 2013

I did not stay at the hotel but attended a conference in this hotel and I was immediately struck by the beauty of the lobby. The food was wonderful and it was quite luxurious surroundings for the... more

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4 star rating
October 08, 2013

My boss came down a month ago to buy a package deal for me and 3 other co-workers to have a day at the spa, then dinner and then had rooms booked for the night. We get there to check in and they said they needed a credit card for incidentals which means lunch and dinner would have to be covered by our card card. Well we were shocked because this is why our boss came a month in advance to take... more

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4 star rating
October 05, 2013

Let me start by saying my husband and I enjoyed absolutely amazing service during our stay - staff throughout the hotel were friendly, helpful and kind. The hotel was more or less clean and seemed to be well run. The entrance and lobby were certainly grande.

Future guests should know, the pictures you're seeing as a part of this profile are absolutely NOT of the rooms we stayed in. I say... more

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4 star rating
Long weekend
September 05, 2013

its was good experience . The hotel should consider renewing the furniture because it's really really old .It was not worth it to pay all this money .The staff was annoying . They called our room at 8:30 am just to ask us about an issue with our credit card . That was really shameful of them to call us that early . They could've wait until it's our check-out time .The in-room dinning was... more

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4 star rating
August 05, 2013

Best hotel stay I've ever had. Friendly staff and very luxurious place. Can tell it's been renovated to keep it modern but still has classic atmosphere.

Though I loved the place there are a few things that could be improved upon, such as the WiFi connectivity (was decent) and the signage on the Mezzanine level (connected to parking garage) indicating how to reach the main lobby (1 floor down... more

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4 star rating
July 05, 2013

Wonderful staff who make you feel welcome. Nice gym with Precor equipment and lovely pool. Calming light blue decor. Friendly valets and front desk staff. Too bad about the road construction, but I suppose that will eventually be finished - it's not the hotels' fault anyway. The Fairmont remains my first choice in any city!

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4 star rating
May 05, 2013

Excellent in service as with every other Fairmont hotels. Food needs some major improvement tho, or lower the price of the menu significantly. Stay there but dine somewhere else. Hint: Teatro is only a few blocks away.

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4 star rating
February 22, 2013

Lovely hotel. Considerate and courteous staff. Highly recommend the Rimrock restaurant.

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4 star rating
February 22, 2013

For: Old world charm Staff were very friendly and helpful Quiet and relaxing Good location Against: A little expensive when compared to other accomodation, expected more for money Room was smaller than expect Air conditioning noisey

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4 star rating
February 22, 2013

A well maintained grand Hotel.The room was large bath room huge all clean and comfortable.Good value.Very nice and helpfull staff. We would stay there again

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4 star rating
February 22, 2013

An elegant hotel situated in the downtown area of Calgary. My room was spacious and the service was impeccable. During my stay, I also took the hotel-organized tour of Banff and Lake Louise - superb! I recommend this hotel without reservation.

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4 star rating
February 22, 2013

The Fairmont Palliser is exactly as described. From the point of driving up to the entry to checking out, I was treated like a queen. Everybody there was professional, knew their jobs and went out of their way to help. I was not let down once during my stay; housekeeping, coincergie service, dining room, hospitality room, wait staff, valet.......they were 5 stars all the way. This is a hotel... more

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4 star rating
February 22, 2013

Decor and size of the Junior Suite was nice - but the bathroom was small and awkward to use. Overlooking the railway tracks was intiguing - but some of the trains in the middle of the night were quite long...! Staff very helpful and location excellent.

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4 star rating
February 22, 2013

We found the Fairmont Palliser to be a lovely hotel in a great location in downtown Calgary. The staff was very friendly and accommodating and gave us an upgrade to a Junior Suite for no additional fee. The room was lovely and for the price, much more than one would expect in the downtown area of a major city. I would definitely recommend this hotel.

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4 star rating
January 05, 2013

As a wedding planner, the Fairmont Palliser is one of my favorite venues to work with! They always roll out the red carpet for my clients, and help us create an incredible experience for the bride and groom on their wedding day! Their venue is timeless and classic with a definite element of grandeur. I love how each one of their staff takes pride in their work and really gives their best effort... more

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4 star rating
Historic hotel
May 22, 2012

Good location and helpful staff. A historic place!

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September 20, 2011

“The rooms are small , furniture was very old, very little lighting, bathrooms were horrible, very tiny and old, bath tub had molding and quacking, will not be staying here again.”

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4 star rating
Sehr zentral gelegen, unser Zimmer
July 16, 2011

Sehr zentral gelegen, unser Zimmer ging jedoch auf die Bahnlinie hinaus

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4 star rating
The location was great. The staff
June 02, 2011

The location was great. The staff ever so helpful as this was our first time visit to Calgary and were informative about places to visit, restaurants nearby and having documentation ready for us to pick up re cruising.The only down side was no view from our hotel window but this was minor considering the amount of time spent in the room.

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4 star rating
Unbeatable location
April 23, 2011

Beautiful room, great service and great location. Walk to everything downtown.

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March 25, 2011

Fairmont Palliser was in a great downtown Calgary location. It was fairly easy in and out and located next to the Calgary Tower and within walking distance to Stephan Ave. The hotel itself is dated, but not yet outdated, the lobby and level 1 common rooms are amazing, filled with detailed elegance. The room was OK, it was easy enough to work in, though the bathrooms were fairly outdated, as... more

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4 star rating
good after all
February 03, 2011

i went to visit a friend who lives in Calgary, the hotel location is perfect, i didn't like the fitness club , it's so gloomy and the spa is small. the beds are very comfortable! my room was small and didn't have a good view. the view was ugly. the service is good. food is good. in many previous i have taken the hotel was more of what i expect . but this one wasn't as i expected. i very much... more

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4 star rating
everythings good !!
January 04, 2011

shopping, hang out with friends.

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4 star rating
A good night's Sleep
November 13, 2010

Even though the hotel was very busy it was really quiet in our room. You have to pay for parking separately-pricey because you are downtown.

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4 star rating
Historic in Calgary
October 30, 2010

The Fairmont Palliser is simply stunning. This is the third hotel I've tried during my monthly trip to Calgary. I won't stay anywhere else now. The lobby is gorgeous, the rooms while a bit small were quaint and charming. The workout room was just fine with 3 treadmills, 3 ellipticals, a selection of free weights and other workout essentials. The room service menu offered a nice variety of... more

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4 star rating
Beautiful hotel, great location
August 23, 2010

Great location in downtown Calgary. Close to shopping, Prince's island, restaurants etc.

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4 star rating
great night. great morning
August 14, 2010

A single nite weekend stay meant a saturday night on the town--downtown and close to everything-- and a great morning with a dip in a great pool/sauna/hot tub. The sunday buffet was very good @ $26. Class act hotel. Class act city.

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4 star rating
Smoky Holiday
August 14, 2010

First Class service and location ruined by smoke and trains.......that's all I have to say

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4 star rating
Unbeatable location for the price
December 19, 2009

Stay only two dayswatch tv, room service good price but small portionnot so good pillows

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4 star rating
Great hotel - would go back again
October 12, 2009

I've stayed at a couple of hotels in Calgary - Hyatt, Westin and now the Fairmont. I would say the service ranks high up there along with the Hyatt staff...friendly & responds in a timely manner if you have any requests. I got a suite at the Fairmont and it was a nice sized room with a shower stall and a separate jacuzzi. One thing great about the Fairmont is that even though you book the room... more

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4 star rating
The Palliser is one of the best properties in downtown Calgary!
February 28, 2009

The Fairmont Palliser is a true 4-star or better property completely from the minute you walk in the front door (beware ... steps only, so you might want to use the Bellman to help with heavy luggage!) to the first class Rimrock Restaurant, to the accommodations. The room had perfect temperature control, considering I was there when the temperatures varied outside from -20degF to +40degF in... more

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4 star rating
Room 1051
October 31, 2008

They put us next to the elevator and my friend could not sleep a wink. Thank goodness that I had brought earplugs so I did not have it as bad. They made up by offering to comp our breakfast and dinner (but only after I insisted).

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October 17, 2008

“Fairmont Palliser is one of the most upscale hotels in Calgary, and historic. Most accommodating in the Rimrock restaurant to provide a light meal rather than full blown dinner. Excellent suite but the gorgeous bathroom was cold and unable to adjust. High charges for everything ($7 bottled water). A great place for special occasions, heart of downtown theatre district.”

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4 star rating
The Fairmont Paliser was very classy
May 31, 2008

It was very conveniently located for the centre of Calgary and only two hundred yards to the Rocky Mountaineer railway station. Elegantly decorated in the public areas and service inpeccable. Rooms relatively small and simple with small ensuite. Pool and jaccuzzi very nice.

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4 star rating
August 31, 2007

Hotel lobby was great;however, hotel was old. rooms were clean but so so small

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4 star rating
July 31, 2007

The Fairmont Palliser was beautiful, clean, had very attentive service and was conveniently located within walking distance to shopping, sightseeing and eating.

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4 star rating
So good we did it twice !
April 18, 2007

Very impressed all round. Beautiful entrance and public rooms. Classy, quiet yet busy and efficient - and we had two kids in tow !

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January 09, 2007

“The polisher is a beautiful old hotel.”

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April 13, 2006

Rooms are quite comfortable in a normal hotel fashion. There is a grand restaurant - the Rimrock Room - on the ground floor and the hotel sports a magnificent old-style lobby in which you can just hang out. Old photos recount the history of the hotel and Calgary throughout the lobbies ofthe hotel. Beneath the lobby, there is a fine pool-gym-steam room area in which you can spend time, as well.... more

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4 star rating
Like wow again
September 25, 2005

I loved the OAk room lounge with it's old authentic aura and atmosphere. It's a lounge taht truly leys you lounge. The spa is awesome with it's pool and spa. There is nothing like sliding into the pool when you are first in and gliding through the water. I love the rooms , though sometimes small, teh whole atmosphere is one that just invites you back time and time again.

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Business Description from the Web
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October 29, 2018

This 4 star hotel is located in the city centre of Calgary and was established in 1914. It is close to the Calgary Tower and the nearest station is C-Train. The Hotel has a coffee shop, an indoor swimming pool and a fitness centre/gym. All 407 rooms are equipped with minibar, hairdryer, trouser press, ironing set and air conditioning.

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October 26, 2018

This hotel is connected by a skywalk to the Telus Convention Centre, Calgary Tower, and the Glenbow Museum. The centre of Calgary is covered with skyscrapers, conveying the impression of a big city. Guests will also find excellent shopping facilities and hip restaurants in the city. The entire core of the city is connected with a series of tunnels, to ward off winter's extreme cold. A winding... more

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July 30, 2017

The Fairmont Palliser features room service, a pool area, a concierge and an exercise room. This property offers access for travelers with disabilities. Formerly The Paliser.
If you require five or more rooms, find group rates with HotelPlanner.com.

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December 16, 2014

On the Skywalk

This Calgary hotel is located in the heart of the city, connected via skywalk to the Calgary Tower, Glenbow Museum and Telus Convention Centre.

Spa, steam rooms

Guests of The Fairmont Palliser enjoy a large spa tub, steam room, and fitness equipment; a spa offers treatments; and the Rimrock serves prime Alberta beef amid Western elegance.

Elegant chambers

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September 15, 2013

Fairmont Palliser The offers these services: hotel.

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August 30, 2013

Property Location
A stay at The Fairmont Palliser places you in the heart of Calgary, steps from Art Gallery of Calgary
and Calgary Tower. This 4-star hotel is within close proximity of Vertigo Theatre and Lunchbox
Theatre.

Rooms
Make yourself at home in one of the 407 air-conditioned rooms featuring minibars. Cable programming
and video-game consoles are provided for your entertainment, with... more

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April 27, 2013

First opened in 1914 as one of the original Canadian Pacific Hotels, the Fairmont Palliser has become Calgarys landmark historic hotel. The Palliser is located in the heart of downtown Calgary and is connected by the Skywalk to the Calgary Convention Centre, the Calgary Tower and the Glenbow Museum. Each of the 405 guest room accommodations at The Fairmont Palliser in Calgary are luxuriously... more

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March 18, 2013

Named after Captain John Palliser (a Waterford, Ireland explorer who was with the Hector Expedition in the 1850's) and designed by architect Lawrence Gotch, the Palliser was built for a mere 1. 5 million dollars. Opened in 1914, the exterior of the Palliser features "Edwardian Commercial" architecture. Its unique E-shape ensures that all guestrooms have outside views and creates the appearance... more

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February 24, 2013

About The Fairmont Palliser: Set in the heart of the city, the Fairmont Palliser is connected to the Telus Convention Centre, Calgary Tower and the Centre of Performing Arts. Numerous shops and restaurants are within a short walking distance. The Calgary International Airport is just a short drive from the Fairmont Palliser. The city's Light Rail Transit (LRT) and the VIA passenger rail station... more

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February 22, 2013

Location. The Fairmont Palliser is located in Calgary, Alberta, and is connected by a skywalk to the Calgary TELUS Convention Centre, Calgary Tower and the Glenbow Museum. Calgary’s thriving arts scene surrounds the hotel.
Hotel Features. Built in the Edwardian Commercial style, the Fairmont Palliser is fitted with oak paneling, marble columns, candelabras and art. The Lobby, once known as The... more

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November 22, 2011

The Fairmont Palliser The Palliser opened on June 1, 1914. The spaces have been equipped with oak panels, candelabra, marble columns and floors, hand-made carpets and public art. Named after Captain John Palliser, which explored the region in the years 1850, the eight floors has been expanded in 1929, with another $ 30 million in renovation and restoration carried out recently. The Palliser was... more

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May 09, 2011

This stunning railway hotel has been a Calgary landmark and institution for almost a century. Despite its years, Fairmont Palliser is still considered one of the best hotels in the city. Royalty stay here as well as top dignitaries. Fairmont Palliser has retained much of the oak, marble and crystal grandeur of its early days and remains deeply steeped in history in its public areas. The hotel... more

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October 17, 2010

The Fairmont Palliser is a true Canadian landmark known as Calgarys most elegant hotel. Just footsteps away from Calgarys best shopping - sporting events and music festivals - guests are provided with an array of activities and events to choose from - ensuring a memorable stay. The Fairmont Palliser is the cornerstone of Calgarys corporate community - offering timeless luxury and modern... more

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September 16, 2010

For those guests who seek a truly unique experience, The Fairmont Palliser also proudly offers the personalized service of Fairmont Gold. These rooms include exclusive check in, complimentary high speed internet, private lounge access, deluxe continental breakfast, a dedicated concierge team and more! Whether traveling for business or leisure, the Fairmont Gold team will ensure your stay is... more

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November 24, 2008

First opened in 1914 as one of the Canadian Pacific Railroad hotels, the Fairmont Palliser has become Calgary's landmark historic hotel. The Palliser is located in the heart of downtown Calgary and is connected by the Skywalk to the Calgary Convention Centre, the Calgary Tower and the Glenbow Museum. The 405 guestrooms have just been through a $28 million restoration and are appointed with new... more

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September 16, 2010

The rimrock - available for breakfast - lunch or dinner. The

rimrock has long been known as the place for special

occasions and the best prime rib in town. Featuring daily

brekfast and lunch buffet as well as legendary sunday brunch

and death by cholocolate on monday nights.

Oak room lounge - an elegantly casual lounge.

In room dining - available 24 hours a... more

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